The Other Shoe

From this comment thread at OB:

[bored now. comment deleted.]

Comments under that name are no longer permitted. The transition is now complete.

For the record, O Moderately Beloved Readers: has Eliezer yet demonstrated that recursive self-improvement is possible, let alone likely? Has he shown that ‘Friendly AI’ is coherent, let alone desirable? Has he shown that the only alternative to FAI is a nightmare or a null? Has he made any objective progress towards his claimed goals? Has he been able to objectively demonstrate the validity of his assertions about rationality?

You’ll have to ask those questions yourselves, now.

[edited to add] Eliezer’s replacement text is probably a reference to Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Specifically, when Willow is consumed by rage and despair after the shooting of her lover, she tracks down the people responsible. After capturing one, she toys with him for a time, then says “Bored now”, and kills him by magically ripping off his skin.

3 Responses to “The Other Shoe”

  1. Has he ever given serious rationale for why he feels the need to censor you? Are there any comments that would seem obviously trollish to an outside observer?

    It seems like EY is really unaware of how batshit insane he appears to the man on the street, if he takes your comments to be trollish. It always seems to me that you’re taking him seriously, which I think is already irrationally supportive of his ideas.

  2. “It always seems to me that you’re taking him seriously”

    Taking arguments seriously, and taking them respectfully, is sometimes impossible. When dealing with absurdity, the two responses are mutually exclusive.


    I don’t really have much else to say. No, wait, one thing:

    The name for this category of posts comes from a line from Babylon 5 spoken by the character of Londo Mollari:

    General Lefcourt: “We took care of the Dilgar, we can take care of the Minbari.”
    Londo Mollari: “Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you.”

    Eliezer is becoming very efficient indeed.

  3. One additional thought:

    “It seems like EY is really unaware of how batshit insane he appears to the man on the street,”

    I think he knows, but doesn’t care. More to the point, I think he knows how crazy he appears to most people who take AI seriously, but doesn’t care.

    He wants to create a clique, and making well-supported and rational arguments isn’t conducive to that. In fact, it’s counterproductive.

    His behavior makes perfect sense once you ignore his claims and look at his actions.

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